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Post by Kevin Cuffe on Oct 26, 2011 22:47:44 GMT
There's not doubt Launch has better over all coverage, but up to 2008 the G-scan has equal coverage in Euro, I was told they are currently working on the European Software. This tool is also a big hit in Australia these units retail for over $5000 down there and they sale well. Also G-scan covers trucks like Fuso and Hino. It has the Best Asian Coverage, covers European Vehicles fairly well up to 2008 including some programing functions like calibration of angle steering sensor, Has OEM coverage including programing for KIA and Hyundai, quality and its a lot better, unit comes in a leather case with a combination like a brief case, is touch screen but also allows you to use the keys. Its hard to explain it you just have to get your hands on one, reason why retailers don't like the G scan is there is no Online pricing there is no auction website listing so its hard for dealers to sale then. www.facebook.com/pages/GIT-Gscan-G-Scan-USA/146196862142675
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Post by neilttit on Oct 27, 2011 12:33:11 GMT
that's not the point, it does not matter how good it is, it's going to take a long time for it to generate the sales of LAUNCH AND CARMAN, those brands were here long time ago, this is a new brand, in a market that is very saturated with all kinds of scanners
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Post by Kevin Cuffe on Oct 27, 2011 22:42:50 GMT
Your are right but the fact remains if the most of the cars you work on are Asian and here and there you get some Europeans this is the best tool for you, if you mainly work on Europeans then i would go with a Launch maybe in the future the Euro software will be as good as the Launch time will only tell, the quality, the easy navigation and wording surpasses the Autoboss Launch and Autel. Am i the only one who finds the Launch hard to work with ? some of the wording for the menus are confusing picking some models is a nightmare, Maybe the wording and navigation will improve with the new models coming out such as the Solo and the GDS
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Post by neilttit on Oct 27, 2011 23:37:28 GMT
all i can say is, if carman was the best in asian and if rumors on this forum are true about the parent company being in huge financial troubles then how does g-scan expect to make it, when the scanner craz is over??. companies like launch and carman will certainly not allow g-scan to come into the market are decimate their brands just like that, they will most likely come up to g-scan standards or even be better, or specialize in one particular area of automobiles, but LAUNCH certainly will not accept failure, LAUNCH is too big of a company to accept failure, most people know LAUNCH as the GODFATHER of scanners, when i have my meeting with LAUNCH i will discuss this, and hear what my area manager has to say about g-scan, for know don't believe g-scan is an exclusive brand as many people think, i believe their is now 2 distributors in UK . they are realizing that a lot more has to be done if they will have any chance of breaking through, also don't worry about g-scan too much, in the near future their are other companies set to introduce better and more sophisticated scanners on the market, so in the world of computer, today best technology is tomorrow garbage.
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Post by John Mcgovern on Oct 28, 2011 7:42:31 GMT
Kevin I'm sorry to here you feel like this, so i suggest you contact your dealer regarding this case, BUT i will say this LAUNCH is a OE spec tool it is sold like this and always has been form day one this is why the menus are like this, all cars all models all years are all different just like the OEM TOOL, when you buy a OE spec tool this is what you get, i can agree some menus are tricky to use if your not sure about the layout or the useage or are not trained,
also just another quick one, the Gscan surely as a OEM spec tool for 2 main cars will NEVER have full OEM capabilities on them vechicles in the aftermarket, so i assume there will be 2 versions ? aftermarket & special ? also Both menus for them cars are different as they are separate manuaftcures as-well as they will NOT have to different layouts from aftermarket and special so basically without me even using a GSCAN i would probably say that the LAUNCH layout would be very similar to the GSCAN layout so to me i could be wrong the "navigation" would be virtually the same..
i can say this, before this post topic gets out off hand i will close this topic if it gets to far out off control, so calm down men, i understand one mans opinion against another, but unfortunally i cannot tolerate posts and topics that could cause a business headache
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Post by hometune on Oct 28, 2011 11:41:53 GMT
Hi Kevin, When I first got my Launch I had all sorts of issues that were posted on here years ago. I have stuck with it and it does take time to get to know the menus and how to find your way around. I have thrown it back in the van when it wont connect or you read live data and it throws you out, coz it is frustrating, I know it is. The more you use any tool the better you are able to get around. For me its a question of sticking with a tool I know rather than try another that promises the earth (don't they all?). It has its limitations which I have not been slow to criticise but for an all rounder, it helps me out. If you have IDS, then you will know what difficult initial use is. The Ford menu is different from the Jaguar and you have to learn to use each one. It can also be frustratingly slow to navigate around and not all fault codes are listed either. I think you are a bit like a lot of us: you want a tool that does it all but it just does not exist. We each have to look at what earns us our money and buy the tools accordingly. I dont do a lot of Japanese, its mainly European and especially French so got Clip and Planet/Lexia. I could not justify Consult or Techstream to plug into 3 cars a year. So I use the Launch as my main back up for these makes and it does enough all round for me. My advice to anyone is to buy a tool that works on your most regualr makes - dealer tools if you want - and then an all rounder for the rest. I don't think you will go far wrong.
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Post by neilttit on Oct 28, 2011 12:16:42 GMT
hi kevin, no one isn't saying that you brand of scanner is bad, i think this is a mature conversation about people using different products and pointing out good and bad issues concerning these products, the only way we as a people can move forward in life is to know where we are and in what direction we would like to move forward, no worries, i visited some workshops and the machanics have all the scanners on the market, LAUNCH, CARMAN, SNAP-ON, G-SCAN,I-SCAN, AUTOBOSS, AUTEL..........., most of them have their own strengths and weaknesses
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Post by Kevin Cuffe on Nov 6, 2011 11:09:18 GMT
Just got back from the SEMA and AAPPEX shows in Las Vegas, I visited the Launch exhibit the new GDS is amazing at 3500 USD you get a 4 channel Osiliscope a sensor tester comes wifi enable has internet access the quality of the unit itself its a lot better tool from the screen to how fast it is, the new OS runs on windows xp, as for the gscan a new gscan is coming out with gscan 2 comes with an osiliscope the software development for USA Vehicles is underway with support for vehicles from 2000 and newer, My only hope is that Launch improves its coverage in domestic and asian but i am very excited about this new tool the only thing it doesn't have is a passthru but for all the features at only 3500usd the price is amazing, i mean the x431 doesn't have half of the features the GDS has and its priced at around the same price.
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Post by neilttit on Nov 7, 2011 1:49:31 GMT
hello there, thanks for the info, i haven't got to use one yet, but i will soon, also i do like the G-SCAN brand, i also like G-SCAN respect towards their dealers , i think the way of exclusivity will help grow the brand well.
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Post by Kevin Cuffe on Nov 7, 2011 3:48:00 GMT
I will give credit were is needed, the GDS is one step ahead right now i think this is an answer to the snap one Verus which has the same features more or less, the Versus has a built in passthru this is the only advantage but for 12,000 you can buy a decent passthru for that amount and the GDS I also hate the way snap charges you 2000 per year for updates, as for the Gscan i think the exclusiveness of dealerships is the reason why a lot of people are not familiar with the tool but the Piracy or cross border selling is close to non i mean the chinese trade companies sale it for 3500 to 5500 some will even sale you a trade in kit for 3500, the retail price is about 3000 from gscan usa, GSCAN also showcased a tablet based scantool using an ipad and other tablets using a VCI as the comunicator, this was unique but i dont think using a tabelet is a good idea not for the autorepair workplace, The solo from Launch was also pretty good is like an oversize diagun only downfall it comes with no software but the price with euro software retails at about 1500 which is pretty good
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Post by neilttit on Nov 8, 2011 2:37:30 GMT
hi there, well i guess i can take some advice on this, because i will have to get my hands on a GDS, is it that good??, or are you just kidding, coz i have also heard rumors G-SCAN is excellent, but never got my hands on one, i looked at a GDS video on YOUTUBE but did not see anything suprising, maybe a scope, but nothing new that i haven't seen before, let me know what exactly you like about this tool,
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Post by kevin cuffe on Nov 9, 2011 1:29:30 GMT
Well you mention the osiliscope, its wifi ready access to the internet like on internet explorer, has a sensor tester so you can test a faulty sensor, the display is amazing is big and clear and it super fast i mean if you ever worked with a x431 tool you will really love how fast this tool is and the price is also amazing think about it the launch x431 tool is priced at about 3500 with non of the features the GDS has
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Post by neilttit on Nov 9, 2011 2:58:24 GMT
oh well, i think i saw some scanners in the past with some features like this, i think, but i hope manufacturers arn't running out of ideas, coz really there has not been anything amazing with respect to scanners in a while, all of the functions we see on new scanners today have actually been around for some time, i saw WIFI on some EURO SCANNERS years ago, also scopes had been on snap-on long time, i think we need a scanner to debut like how the LAUNCH debut for the first time about 8 years ago, shocked the whole world with its coverage and price. but just now that scanner would have to be more OE SPEC, being able to perform almost everything as the OEM TOOL, that may prove to be a bit difficult, but it's not unthinkable, coz we have the engineers who can make such a tool, in INDIA there are 1000's of computer engineers who simply sit whole day and write software, i think one day some company will design the ultimate scanner,
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Post by Korean on Nov 21, 2011 13:02:05 GMT
For your information, Nextech the manufacturer of Carman has been unlisted from the stock exchange market recently, their share has been scrapped. The tumors were spreading that the company would not survive long and the end seems not far.
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Post by neilttit on Nov 22, 2011 12:34:51 GMT
hi there, nexteck is not the first to go through this, many company have gone through this and bounced back, no worries, one thing i admire about nextech is that all there years of selling scanners, they only appointed 1 dealer for my country, no parallel imports, they never sold others companies behind there dealers back, they were a true company, that respected dealers, and when they said sole agent , they ment it, sorry other companies cannot do the same. to add to what i have said above, i have checked around and there is nothing online to show that this company is in financial troubles.
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Post by neilttit on Dec 1, 2011 4:46:22 GMT
bump!
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Post by neilttit on Dec 4, 2011 17:06:29 GMT
bump
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Post by mhdralikhn on May 26, 2012 18:58:27 GMT
Can anyone help me decide what diagnostic scanner is best for use in the middle east? I have personally come across the chinese market of launch diagun, it has made my life even more hard to decide which one to go for:
LAUNCH CARMAN- SNAP-ON, G-SCAN, I-SCAN, AUTOBOSS, AUTEL, BOSCH
Urgent help needed!
many thanks
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Post by neilttit on May 27, 2012 21:34:21 GMT
BUMP
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